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About Me
- TomGray
- Tulsa, Oklahoma, United States
- I have been a Presbyterian pastor for over 30 years and I've been at Kirk of the Hills in Tulsa, Oklahoma, since 1982. I am an avid amateur astronomer and astrophotographer. I also love to read almost anything I can get my hands on. My wife, Chrissie, is a university English professor and author. Our daughter, Audrey, is an emergency room physician in Sapulpa, Oklahoma. She's married to Paul, and they have my favorite granddaughter, Emily, who is a high school sophomore.
7 comments:
you & your congregation are in my prayers!
~katie
As an attorney, I can only say that you are fighting an uphill battle. The denomination has clearly stated the trust provisions in its Book of Order, which is a document that, far from hidden, is subscribed to by every officer of the church. To try and escape its provisions now will be a legal stretch. Ethically, (which is not the same as legally) it is the best example of hypocrisy I've seen in a long time. For a congregation to ignore the strictures of a Constitution because it feels the denomination it is a part of does not follow that self-same Constitution is a logic so convoluted, a hypocrisy so brazen, it would be funny were it not so terribly sad.
JC
JC's comments must be coming from Louisville!
A valid covenant takes 'two to tango', as they say.
The PC(USA) is not living up to their end of the bargain when they act as if they are nothing more than a property trust corporation.
Today the PC(USA) must choose-- Are we governed by the laws of Mammon or Christ?
My prayers go with you in this battle!
Tom,
Your integrity shines brightly.
Case in point, having no fear to show the lies of the enemy as they are spewn by jc.
Of course, the enemy knows that one voice of doubt takes many fold more of encouragement to overcome such caustic misinformation.
Your words tonight have sewn further faith into your fold.
Like I have said before, my family and I are so proud of you and your leadership staff.
Regardless of the decisions of men, you are following the course of the Father. Yet, the future may seem uncertain to the finite limits of our mortal minds, the Creator of The Universe has His plans set and He will be glorified.
You congregation stands behind you.
-blessings to you and you family.
Bugahabuc,
Wow. So now comments intended as a legal and ethical statement are "lies of the enemy?" And you wonder why your church is the scorn of the pcusa? Is this how you are being taught to think by your pastoral staff? And Toby decides that I am from Louisville? Next thing you know, the black helicopters will be in flight.
Tom, you have single-handledly created a paranoid congregation. Congratulations.
JC
To all:
Notice how JC refuses to address the issues and just throws mud.
Kirk of the Hills is the 'scorn of the pcusa'(sic)?
JC: Please go somewhere else to spew your slander!
boy, old jc has his underwear in a wad. i'm not sure about his ability to do objective discovery as a member of the court.
i am part of your paranoid following that lives in fear and trembling of the all high and mighty pcusa. given all of our fear and paranoia we will still move forward and listen to God's low volume but sure leading.
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